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Wednesday, March 29, 2006

Demand for Eclipse Skills continues rapid growth. JDeveloper shows strength too.

Demand for Eclipse skills continues to grow rapidly. Since the beginning of 2006, the demand for Eclipse skills on dice.com, a leading IT career portal, has grown from 490 to 754, up over 50% in just 3 months. JDeveloper continues growing it's demand as well, going from 95 to 123. IntelliJ is up slightly from 27 to 29 whereas NetBeans continues its fall going from 41 to 30.

Visual Studio demand appears flat, going from 1398 at the beginning of this month down to 1375 today.

What is interesting about career postings for Eclipse is the growth in demand is primarily for platform related skills as opposed to postings that just rattle off IDE's. For example, this Covansys job looking for Eclipse plug-in developers or this Nexaweb posting.

In fact, refining searches for quality keywords like 'plugin', 'plug in', 'platform', shows some interesting results. Below are dice.com searches for "XXXX and (plugin OR "plug in" OR platform)" with the raw number of career postings and the percentage of jobs looking for that particular skill.

eclipse, 174, 23%
jdeveloper, 17, 14%
intellij, 7, 24%
netbeans, 6, 20%

- Don

7 Comments:

  • At 1:53 PM, Blogger Donald Smith said…

    As per my policy noted in the right bar of my main page, a comment has been deleted.

    "Join the conversation. I love to hear from the community, but comments from anonymous cowards and bloggers who do not allow comments on their own blogs will be deleted."

    In the spirit of fairness, the post noted that the number of job posts mentioning IDE's, relative to the overall number of Jobs mentioning Java, is less than 8% and therefore irrelevant. Moreover, many developers resent working for companies that specify an IDE.

    I don't disagree with this at all, except for the word "irrelevant". I think it's completely relevant not because of the raw numbers, but because of the TRENDS. If the baseline stays at 8% of Java jobs, then the TRENDS are very, very relevant. And as I noted, the trend is that Eclipse is up 50% in less than 3 months.

    - Don

     
  • At 4:01 PM, Blogger RefuX said…

    I just got a cold call (well email) from a recruiter wanting an Eclipse RCP skill set. Like all developers I get lots of emails from recruiters but this is the first Eclipse RCP one, so I guess things are picking up!

    No you can't comment on my blog cuz I don't have one :P

     
  • At 5:14 PM, Blogger Donald Smith said…

    A self proclaimed marketeer from NetBeans took the time to comment on this blog post.

    cld.blog-city.com/beware_of_marketeers_bearing_strange_and_smelly_fruit.htm

    I really don't understand the venom and the bolding, especially since I don't really disagree that most Java job postings don't single out an IDE (or in Eclipse's case, a platform). Nor do I disagree that many developers wouldn't like to be forced into an IDE or platform they didn't like. And I'm sure Swing does have a thriving ecosystem, it's automatically included in the millions and millions of JRE's out there.

    But the fact is that the % of IDE/platform to "Java" ratios have remained quite constant (actually increased by the marketeer's numbers). And that the percentage increase in demand for Eclipse is 50% in less than 3 months. Amazing!

    - Don

    PS - What does it say when one has to comment locally on someone elses blog that links to their own. Talk about not understanding "community" and "conversation". Which is really too bad.

     
  • At 5:49 PM, Blogger Charles Ditzel said…

    Wow! There is no venom there and I use bolding to highlight. Further - if any venom existed it was your post in JavaLobby. By the way - there are plenty of developers (Eclipse and otherwise) that turn off comments. I get between 45,000-70,000 reads a month - if one out of every ten post a comment that's 400-700 emails a month - not including follow-ups. There are already plenty of forums and blogs where one can express opinions - like you are doing now. Whereas, your job may be marketing Eclipse ecosystem, I have a completely different non-marketing job in a partner group doing engineering-related activities with partners.

    Take care.

     
  • At 11:44 PM, Blogger Donald Smith said…

    90 of the 663 "Swing" jobs you noted in your blog are also looking for Eclipse skills. 19 of the 65 AWT jobs. Guess how many of the SWT jobs :)

    Wow, impressive. I'll track the growth of these too. Cheers!

    - Don

     
  • At 5:37 AM, Blogger Neil Bartlett said…

    You should be aware what what we in Eclipse land call a "plugin", the NetBeans people call a "module". So a fairer comparison would be "Eclipse and plugin" versus "NetBeans and module".

     
  • At 8:38 AM, Blogger Donald Smith said…

    Cool, thanks for pointing that out. These stats aren't really about any particular IDE, it's about Eclipse growth. However, I'll certainly add 'module' as a quality keyword moving forward.

    - Don

     

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