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Monday, May 29, 2006

"indeed", some work to do in Eclipse Ecosystem

Indeed.com is a "one search, all jobs" search portal which has a pretty cool trend feature similar to Google Trends. I'm a big fan of career data. It's relatively hard to game and indicitive of what skills organizations are actually looking for today.

The Eclipse ecosystem has a good trajectory on .Net, but our community has a way to go to catch up. For example, organizations looking for developers with Eclipse skills versus Visual Studio skills looks like this:

The data specific to Java developers is also interesting. Handicapping Eclipse with "java" on the search gives us this:


There is another interesting fact that shows up in the data. Let's take Eclipse out of the picture and and get a closer look at non-Eclipse Java developer tools:

There appears to be an aggregation effect. One's loss is another's gain, but overall things are flat. "Indeed", if you "sum" up the non-Eclipse Java tools, you see a flat, even downward trend:


- Don

2 Comments:

  • At 2:33 PM, Blogger Andre said…

    hi don, interesting graphs indeed. I was just playing with some similar terms in Google Trends.

    http://google.com/trends?q=netbeans%2C+intellij%2C+eclipse+java%2C+jbuilder&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all

    What do you think the differentces are when comparing keyword searches to job postings?

     
  • At 6:00 PM, Blogger Donald Smith said…

    It's a good question, here are some thoughts.

    Search terms are quite different than job keywords. As I noted recently:
    http://eclipse-ecosystem.blogspot.com/2006/05/random-thoughts-on-searching-for_12.html
    ..."eclipse" is the keyword people use when searching for the technology, it's extremely rare "eclipse java" is used.

    Job postings versus search terms are sort of an inverse problem - search terms are based on 1 or 2 words, job postings on a verbose description.

    So while I'm comfortable to use "eclipse java" in a verbose job description trend, I'm not for search terms because they are only 1 or 2 words, and especially when I know for a fact that 10-15x the searches for us are just "eclipse". Unfortunately "eclipse" is an overloaded term and therefore you can't use it either, for example:
    http://google.com/trends?q=netbeans%2C+intellij%2C+eclipse%2C+jbuilder&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all
    :)

    Plus, there is probably a bit of a lag effect. I would expect some of the trends in search to eventually correlate to jobs. It would be an interesting feat to see if there is any correlation today, but the lack of absolute numbers makes it tricky.

    - Don

     

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